15:59:57 From Marius Araújo | FCT To Everyone: I know it’s unrelated to today’s presentation, but would you have an in depth but easy Hugo info suggestion? 16:04:02 From Jon [Stem Inc] To Everyone: By when we should get administrative help if we do not receive our user account and password via email? 16:04:09 From edu To Everyone: +1 16:05:21 From Krisjanis Rijnieks To Everyone: I have a video from last year: https://youtu.be/7wCidM35tp8 16:05:40 From Krisjanis Rijnieks To Everyone: ^ hugo introduction 16:06:56 From Mayra Ascencio Calderón To Everyone: https://fabacademy.org/2020/labs/leon/students/adrian-torres/index.html 16:07:31 From Rico Kanthatham To Everyone: Don't hesitate to drop questions in the Chat if you don't understand something in the presentation 16:07:55 From Rico Kanthatham To Everyone: The 16:08:31 From Krisjanis Rijnieks To Everyone: About administrative help: coordination@fabacademy.org it should be 16:08:42 From Waag/Fablab Amsterdam To Everyone: jon/marius: account are not setup yet. Please wait till they are setup and you get instructions from the mentor at your node 16:08:52 From Rico Kanthatham To Everyone: The 'Adrianino'...is a custom development board...similar to well known Arduino Uno 16:08:53 From Marius Araújo | FCT To Krisjanis Rijnieks(Direct Message): Thank you, Krisjanis 16:09:02 From Zack Hwang To Everyone: What is UPDI? The definition on the internet is confusing... what should we remember about it for now? 16:09:15 From Jon [Stem Inc] To Everyone: Thanks Waag^^ 16:09:35 From Esthefanny Salas To Everyone: What kind of big Project has Adrianino been used? 16:09:57 From Krisjanis Rijnieks To Everyone: UPDI: Unified Program and Debug Interface 16:10:13 From Krisjanis Rijnieks To Everyone: From Wikipedia: The Unified Program and Debug Interface (UPDI) is a one-wire interface for external programming and on-chip debugging of newer ATtiny and ATmega devices. The Atmel-ICE and PICkit 4 are capable of programming UPDI chips. It is also possible to use an Arduino thanks to jtag2updi. 16:12:32 From Rico Kanthatham To Everyone: UPDI...more simply put...is one way to connect to a Microcontroller chip to program it. Not all Microcontroller chips support this type of interface...especially older chips. UPDI connection is convenient because it only involves 2 connection pins 16:12:58 From Waag/Fablab Amsterdam To Everyone: could people please mute during presentation? 16:13:55 From Esthefanny Salas To Everyone: What´s the difference between using a microprocessed board and Adriano? 16:14:19 From hunter brad To Everyone: sorry.... 16:16:40 From Steven To Everyone: UPDI programming is for AVR-0, AVR-1 & AVR-2 series devices. These are the newer AVR devices. Older series like the ATtiny45/85, ATtiny44/84 and ATmega328p use the ISP protocol for programming. 16:17:49 From Rico Kanthatham To Everyone: @Estefanny...perhaps you should start with an understanding of a 'Development Board'. Check out the definition here... https://robu.in/what-is-a-development-board/ 16:19:13 From Queenie | Hong Kong iSPACE To Everyone: I am so sorry 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 16:19:19 From Rico Kanthatham To Everyone: While there are many commercially available Development Boards out on the market for purchase...during FabAcademy...you will learn to make your own custom Development Board. The Adrianino and the Samdino...are development boards that Adrian designed by himself. 16:19:42 From Pablo Fab Lab Leon To Everyone: 👏👏👏 16:20:24 From Dan Meyer (They/He) To Everyone: awesome boards Adrián I will make some this year! 16:21:22 From Adrián - Fab Lab León To Everyone: Thank you guys!! 16:23:04 From Rico Kanthatham To Everyone: At the heart of every Development Board is a Microcontroller chip...the brain...a small computer. 'Attiny 412' or 'SAMD11c'...are names of different Microcontroller chips...with different features. This little computer ships blank...and needs to have a program uploaded to it to perform some function. 16:23:12 From Adrián - Fab Lab León To Krisjanis Rijnieks(Direct Message): Hi Kris! I think in the final part we can solve questions 16:23:21 From Krisjanis Rijnieks To Adrián - Fab Lab León(Direct Message): Yea 16:23:23 From Krisjanis Rijnieks To Adrián - Fab Lab León(Direct Message): Q/A 16:23:29 From Krisjanis Rijnieks To Adrián - Fab Lab León(Direct Message): Let's do this! 16:23:42 From Adrián - Fab Lab León To Krisjanis Rijnieks(Direct Message): 👍🏻 16:23:55 From Dan Meyer (They/He) To Everyone: Has anyone soldered usb c on their boards, and if so do they work and what are they like to solder. 16:24:46 From Krisjanis Rijnieks To Everyone: Yes, but the USB C connectors are usually hard to solder. But yes, ive seen people doing it and it is possible. 16:25:05 From Rico Kanthatham To Everyone: The choice of which Microcontroller to use...is up to the person making the DevBoard...usually based on the features they want...such as, more internal memory, USB support, etc. 16:26:46 From Krisjanis Rijnieks To Everyone: If you are looking for links: the documentation sites discussed can be found on the Students Bootcamp schedule page http://academany.fabcloud.io/fabacademy/2022/bootcamp-students/ 16:30:52 From Pablo Fab Lab Leon To Everyone: Maybe the new students dont see that using only an USB is something "new" but its much more easy tan using others forms to program the board :) 16:31:18 From James Khan To Everyone: There is alot of great information and links being sent in the chat. But when we review the video later, the chat doesn't save with it. Can I request that the chat is always saved at the end of the session and uploaded together with the video? 16:32:14 From Duaa - Fab Lab Bahrain To Everyone: Awesome work Quentin!! Excited to make those 16:33:03 From Dan Meyer (They/He) To Everyone: Cool! 16:33:14 From Pablo Fab Lab Leon To Everyone: 👏👏👏 16:33:17 From Rico Kanthatham To Everyone: James...will do 16:33:49 From Adrián - Fab Lab León To Everyone: 👏🏻👏🏻 16:34:11 From Krisjanis Rijnieks To Everyone: James. About the chat. Let's try to do this. I will save the chat and publish on site. 16:34:37 From Rico Kanthatham To Everyone: As Luc is demonstrating...designing your own DevBoard means you can also make the shape cool and interesting! 16:35:53 From Juan Cristaldo To Everyone: thats great! 16:40:46 From Esthefanny Salas To Everyone: Excellent Luc & Théo !! 16:41:41 From Adrián - Fab Lab León To Everyone: Great work Luc!! 16:42:40 From Florian Becker To Everyone: Does the mosfet acts as a regulator ? 16:42:46 From Pablo Fab Lab Leon To Everyone: 👏👏👏Beauuuuutiful board 16:43:46 From AgriLab Luc&Théo To Everyone: @florian mosfet is another component. The board has a 3.3v regulator. 16:44:24 From Krisjanis Rijnieks To Everyone: Mosfet is more like a switch that you can control with electricity. It is a type of transistor. 16:44:33 From Jon [Stem Inc] To Everyone: is it ok to replace soldering via using reflow oven for fabacademy? 16:44:54 From Florian Becker To Everyone: ok thank you 16:45:27 From Krisjanis Rijnieks To Everyone: Yea - reflow is welcome. The one thing to watch out is not to put FR1 material boards in the oven. We use FR1 PCB material for milling and it is less heat resistant than FR4 which is what is used in the industry 16:45:48 From Jon [Stem Inc] To Everyone: Thanks for the tip! 16:46:03 From Krisjanis Rijnieks To Everyone: If you order your boards in a board house, they will most probably use FR4 as the base material. These boards are safe to reflow 16:46:31 From Krisjanis Rijnieks To Everyone: You can also use heated plate and hot air gun with FR1 16:46:55 From Krisjanis Rijnieks To Everyone: Duaa will cover in the Soldering Survival Guide session on Thursday 16:47:38 From Jon [Stem Inc] To Everyone: Thank you, these info are useful for me 16:48:44 From Adrián - Fab Lab León To Everyone: Great job Erwin 👏🏻👏🏻 16:48:58 From Quentin Bolsee To Everyone: Very cool Erwin, should be the default at Fab confs! 16:48:58 From Rico Kanthatham To Everyone: cool Erwin! 16:49:08 From edu To Everyone: neat! :) 16:49:11 From Pablo Fab Lab Leon To Everyone: 👏👏👏 16:49:23 From Pedro Chana To Everyone: Adrian, Quentin, Luc, Erwin. Thanks for the overview and the examples. Really inspiring. Quick question: What would you recommend (tips) for beginners in creating boards and soldering? 16:50:04 From Þórarinn Bjartur Breiðfjörð Gunnarsson To Everyone: maybe explain fr1 and fr4? 16:51:02 From Rico Kanthatham To Everyone: FR1 and FR4 are two variants of stock material from which PCB boards are cut 16:51:29 From Marius Araújo | FCT To Everyone: Milling tips? 16:51:38 From Rico Kanthatham To Everyone: the FR1 type has a paper based backing underneath the copper. FR4 has a fiberglass base underneath the copper 16:52:00 From Waag/Fablab Amsterdam To Everyone: milling tips in 2 weeks :) 16:52:19 From Rico Kanthatham To Everyone: For FabAcademy...we typically use FR1 type boards...because we use a milling machine to cut the PCB boards (like what you saw today). 16:52:26 From Pedro Chana To Everyone: Awesome. Thanks !! 16:52:33 From Jon [Stem Inc] To Everyone: ^ any suggested introductory materials / link/youtube for making and designing circuit board for dummies or absolute beginners. 16:52:45 From Rico Kanthatham To Everyone: FR4 type...when milled...generates fiberglass dust which is not so good to breath in. Bad for your health. 16:53:09 From Jon [Stem Inc] To Everyone: thanks Rico for sharing about the health issue 16:54:31 From Rico Kanthatham To Everyone: As Quentin mentioned...FR4...because it is fiberglass...is tougher on the cutting endmills...will wear them down faster. The little endmills are USD30 each...so we use FR1 type to help prolong the endmill's cutting life. 16:56:09 From Esthefanny Salas To Everyone: What standard do you use to design the board 16:56:38 From Rico Kanthatham To Everyone: @Jon...'Electronic Production' week in FabAcademy will do all that you are asking. During the length of the FabAcademy course...you will get LOTS of opportunities to practice milling and making programmable PCBs. 16:57:24 From Waag/Fablab Amsterdam To Everyone: also depending the machine to make the moards 16:57:24 From Dan Meyer (They/He) To Everyone: Where can you get data on trace width, trace margins for fab academy. 16:57:42 From Waag/Fablab Amsterdam To Everyone: dan: on you machine :) 16:59:22 From Waag/Fablab Amsterdam To Everyone: we have to leave for regional review.... 16:59:42 From Dan Meyer (They/He) To Everyone: Thanks Waag! See you later! 17:00:09 From José Manuel Díaz To Everyone: What is the approximate cost of manufacturing Adrianino? :) 17:00:21 From Roland Grichnik To Everyone: Also gotta leave, thanks peeps! 17:01:09 From Dan Meyer (They/He) To Everyone: These new boards make me feel much less fearful of making my own boards Thankyou! 17:01:14 From Esthefanny Salas To Everyone: Thanks to all!! Have a excellent day. Love from Ecuador. 17:01:20 From Quentin Bolsee To Everyone: Thanks Kris, gotta go. See you all in class! 17:01:28 From Dan Meyer (They/He) To Everyone: Your documentation is great too! 17:01:43 From Þórarinn Bjartur Breiðfjörð Gunnarsson To Everyone: Great session thank you :) 17:02:11 From Steven To Everyone: A very popular, low cost board house - https://jlcpcb.com/ 17:02:31 From Pablo Fab Lab Leon To Everyone: Tomorrow Will be at 10 EST? 17:02:42 From Iván Hdz Sánchez | Fab Lab CDMX To Everyone: Bye 17:02:43 From Luis Díaz-Faes To Everyone: Thank you! Have a nice day/night! ;) 17:02:45 From Duaa - Fab Lab Bahrain To Everyone: Thank you to all the presenters! nice work 17:02:52 From Florian Becker To Everyone: bye 17:02:52 From vrushabh zunjurkar (vigyan ashram fablab) To Everyone: bye 17:02:54 From Iván Hdz Sánchez | Fab Lab CDMX To Everyone: Thanks a lot, see you 17:02:56 From Russian Wu To Everyone: Bye! 17:02:58 From Luis Díaz-Faes To Everyone: Bye ;)