00:31:05 Krisjanis Rijnieks: http://academany.fabcloud.io/fabacademy/2022/bootcamp-students/ 00:36:47 Krisjanis Rijnieks: wow package manager on windows that is something new 00:37:15 Krisjanis Rijnieks: so it is basically as apt-get on linux and brew on mac 00:37:20 Árni Björnsson: similar: https://chocolatey.org/ 00:37:54 Jon [Stem Inc]: why/where do we need package manager for fab lab? 00:38:22 Jon [Stem Inc]: fabacademy* 00:38:42 Krisjanis Rijnieks: you will need to use command line tools at some point during the course 00:39:07 Krisjanis Rijnieks: there are many things where software with graphical user interface is not developed yet 00:39:22 Roland Grichnik: No Windows store here, blocked by IT. Are there alternative ways to get the AppInstaller Package Manager? 00:39:48 Krisjanis Rijnieks: it is strongly suggested to get a computer where you can install packages yourself 00:39:49 Roland Grichnik: Besides that: any reason not just simply to install GIT without Command Line? Never had a Problem with that (using TortoiseGit) 00:40:29 Krisjanis Rijnieks: if you can not afford a new computer, take a look at solutions like this https://www.raspberrypi.com/products/raspberry-pi-400/ 00:40:49 Krisjanis Rijnieks: but basically any refurbished computer should be able to run a linux operating sytem such as Ubuntu, for example 00:41:12 Roland Grichnik: My Computer is usually fine and I do have admin rights, just the Windows store is blocked on the Network here :) 00:41:27 Aaron Hinkle: It’s not a computer problem; it’s a network problem. IT doesn’t allow windows store 00:41:36 Rico Kanthatham: tilde 00:41:45 Devesh S Nair: tildde 00:41:53 Edu (they/he): can you install software while you're outside the office? 00:42:16 Roland Grichnik: Might be, I really never had to install anything from the Windows store :) 00:42:37 Kencho: if we have installed Ubuntu, is it necessary to install command line 00:42:47 Árni Björnsson: There is probably nothing you need that's only available on the MS store 00:43:14 Árni Björnsson: -probably +definitely 00:43:34 Krisjanis Rijnieks: For Ubuntu you do not need to install a command line. Terminal comes preinstalled 00:43:41 Rico Kanthatham: Neil is a big fan of Command Line interface...more efficient he says...his fingers (almost) never has to leave the keyboard and use the mouse. Time management to the extreme. 00:43:58 Jon [Stem Inc]: possible to give the title of lesson which we will be using command line so I can go take a look? 00:44:04 Roland Grichnik: @Arni: Thanks, I guessed so much. Then that shouldn't become a problem :D 00:44:05 Jon [Stem Inc]: or lessons* 00:44:37 Jon [Stem Inc]: and package manager* 00:45:00 Rico Kanthatham: @jon...you will start using the terminal from the 1st or 2nd week...and you will be using it regularly throughout the course 00:45:15 Jon [Stem Inc]: Thanks!' 00:45:43 Rico Kanthatham: gitbash is the way you will manage/synchronize your local FabAcademy folders with that saved on the Fab Cloud 00:46:45 Esthefanny Salas: where can we find the recorded clases? 00:47:08 Krisjanis Rijnieks: They are going to be publishec on Fab Academy Vimeo channel and on the Student Bootcamp schedule page 00:47:29 Krisjanis Rijnieks: Here: http://academany.fabcloud.io/fabacademy/2022/bootcamp-students/ 00:49:13 Roland Grichnik: @Rico: just to add for other non-Microsoft-Store users: GitBash is also installed when installing Git for Windows directly, so no problem without the Package Manager 00:50:50 Rico Kanthatham: Good point Roland. Package Manager for Windows is news to me! 00:51:49 Krisjanis Rijnieks: CMDER is another command line alternative for Windows https://cmder.net/ 00:52:48 Rico Kanthatham: There are many 'flavors' of Linux that you can install...generally with different levels of familiar GUI. Some prefer more Windows or Mac like icon based interface...others prefer more simple, efficient interfaces without the pretty overlay. 00:54:12 Rico Kanthatham: For those wanting to try out Linux for your Fab Academy experience...be comforted that most software needed for the course works on Linux. 00:54:21 Krisjanis Rijnieks: Yeah check out Antimony: https://www.mattkeeter.com/projects/antimony/3/ 00:54:59 Krisjanis Rijnieks: It is a node-based functional representation CAD environment build by one of the former How to Make students at MIT. Matt Keeter 00:55:36 Krisjanis Rijnieks: How to Make (almost) Anything is the course Fab Academy comes from 00:57:18 Krisjanis Rijnieks: yeah if you want your terminal to look as in a hacker movie, look into oh-my-zsh https://ohmyz.sh/ 00:59:19 henk: @rico and @all all software needed for the fabacademy is on linux 00:59:46 henk: did fabacademy 4 years ago using linux only 01:01:15 Krisjanis Rijnieks: sudo: super user do 01:05:22 Esthefanny Salas: In the course of the fabacademy, is there more explanation about this topic? or is it just in the bootcamp 01:05:41 Pablo Fab Lab Leon: Linux always explain what´s happening and what´s needed from the user...AND the user must read all the information Linux send to you 😄 01:06:08 Krisjanis Rijnieks: You should consult with your local instructor if a in-depth session on this is planned 01:07:00 Krisjanis Rijnieks: In the case there is no session planned, there are many great tutorials on command line on YouTube 01:07:28 Aaron Hinkle: Is Linux necessary for FA, or can we just use Windows? 01:07:46 Rico Kanthatham: windows is ok too 01:09:08 Krisjanis Rijnieks: Linux may take time and effort to get familiar with, but it is so far the most flexible, especially for the things you will do with your computer during the Fab Academy 01:09:17 Abby Aresty: If on MacOS, what OS is recommended? Big Sur or Monterey ? 01:09:40 Pablo Fab Lab Leon: You can use the OS you prefer. But, its a good oportunity to try other enviroments, experience other tools and open your mind to other worlds. 01:09:49 Krisjanis Rijnieks: On Mac, so far I have seen that users have more problems the more recent the version of MacOS is. 01:09:58 Juan Cristaldo: and for windows 10? Ubuntu? 01:10:03 Luis Díaz-Faes: Monterey run very good 01:10:05 Krisjanis Rijnieks: So stay with an older version of Mac OS if possible 01:11:04 Luis Díaz-Faes: You can use Parallels for run older MacOS, Windows, Linux… 01:11:52 Krisjanis Rijnieks: on Linux there is quick-emu that let you launch Windows and MacOS with a oneliner in Terminal 01:12:01 Abby Aresty: I’m on Mojave, actually, for that reason…but running into complaints that my os is too old when I tried to install mkdocs 01:12:28 Krisjanis Rijnieks: QuickEmu website: https://github.com/quickemu-project/quickemu 01:12:43 Krisjanis Rijnieks: But generally for virtual machines you need a powerful computer 01:12:48 Walter Lenigan: Personally, I believe that a really cool alternative is to acquire a raspberry pi 4 8gb RAM if possible and use it as the academy computer. You’ll learn a lot! 01:13:09 Walter Lenigan: That's what I do haha 01:13:09 Roland Grichnik: @Walter: If you can get one right now :D 01:13:28 Jon [Stem Inc]: @Roland, now raspberry pi 4 hard to get? 01:13:42 Walter Lenigan: That's also true @Roland hahaha 01:13:56 Roland Grichnik: I was really lucky to get a 4Gb one a while back for non-scalper Prices, the 8Gb model constantly out of stock (here in Germany at lweast) 01:14:07 Esthefanny Salas: VirtualBox for Ubuntu en Windows 01:14:09 Jon [Stem Inc]: Thanks for sharing! 01:14:26 Walter Lenigan: the chip shortage caused this problem 01:18:04 Walter Lenigan: @Roland I managed to get an 8gb version Nov. 2020. 01:22:57 Walter Lenigan: Its's amazing !I set it up with ubuntu mate 01:24:48 Pablo Fab Lab Leon: Also, all the commands and outputs of the terminal usually are stored in a file inside the system, so you just can copy/paste later to your documentation. 01:24:57 Krisjanis Rijnieks: Ctrl+L is something new to me. Adding to my tool box. 01:28:11 Rico Kanthatham: nice cheatsheet! 01:29:38 Adrián - Fab Lab León: https://fabacademy.org/2021/labs/napoli/students/oleksandr-romanko/cheats/cheatsheet/ 01:30:01 Þórarinn Bjartur Breiðfjörð Gunnarsson: thanks! 01:30:03 José Manuel Díaz: 👏 01:30:28 Pablo Fab Lab Leon: Great overview Oleksandr! 🙌 01:30:35 Adrián - Fab Lab León: Thank you Oleksandr!! 01:30:36 Rico Kanthatham: 👏 01:30:51 José Manuel Díaz: any recommendation to create my html site in a more visual way, is worprees an option? 01:30:52 Luis Díaz-Faes: Thank you Oleksandr 🙂 01:31:12 Jon [Stem Inc]: Next week, we won't b using this link but using our Fabio acc? 01:31:20 Juan Cristaldo: Thank you Oleksandr! 01:31:37 Aybak AL_daamsa: Thank you Oleksandr 01:33:07 Þórarinn Bjartur Breiðfjörð Gunnarsson: thank you! 01:33:15 Yikun: thank you! 01:33:23 Rico Kanthatham: ...or we can run some sessions at Global Open Time 01:33:29 Pablo Fab Lab Leon: Thank you Kris!!!! 👏👏 01:33:44 Iván Hdz Sánchez | Fab Lab CDMX: See you, bye 01:33:45 Luis Díaz-Faes: Adios, have a nice day/night!